Sometimes the definitions we work with really do matter. “What do you mean when you say ‘Livable’?” is a question worth answering. In the discussion surrounding a posted response to JLG’s bar for success in Iraq, I stated:
No JLG, the country is not livable again. Its come under a repression incarnation of sharia law. There are bombings and murders daily. The government is still sharply divided, and the police force is still under trained and corrupt.
Here another, more recent refutation of the claim by “Dan (fitness)” that “Iraq is not livable again,” and his accusation that I’m merely viewing the world through the “conservative black and white lens.”
Let’s look at that NYTimes article, shall we? (Emphasis mine)
The security improvements in most neighborhoods are real. Days now pass without a car bomb, after a high of 44 in the city in February. The number of bodies appearing on Baghdad’s streets has plummeted to about 5 a day, from as many as 35 eight months ago, and suicide bombings across Iraq fell to 16 in October, half the number of last summer and down sharply from a recent peak of 59 in March, the American military says.
Don’t get me wrong, the math speaks for itself. Finding less bodies on the street is a good thing. But in what twisted world is that livable?
My reference to a “black and white lens” referred to the idea that we can either surrender or keep fighting forever. There are other options. And frankly, JLG had no response to this:
My facts are rock solid. Further, those answers I do have are not driven by idealogical blindness and an inability to acknowledge reality.
That seems like a worse option than cleaning up our mess with the surge.
Did you forget the surge was to clean up our mess with the invasion? That it is actually the second surge, cleaning up the first? Do you suggest another surge, ad nauseum?
When will Republican acknowledge the reality on the ground, and stop cheerleading the bloodletting?
In choosing a path for America to take on Iraq, we shouldn’t be letting a psychopathic need to prove the invasion (or the first corner, the victory, the surge, or the second surge) a success drive our decision making or our assessment of the reality on the ground.