Fuck Democracy: We Make Us Less Safe

NYTimes:

On Friday, the deputy White House press secretary, Tony Fratto, took The Times to task for publishing the information, saying the newspaper had compromised America’s security.

“I’ve had the awful responsibility to have to work with The New York Times and other news organizations on stories that involve the release of classified information,” Mr. Fratto said. “And I could tell you that every time I’ve dealt with any of these stories, I have felt that we have chipped away at the safety and security of America with the publication of this kind of information.”

They’ve done this every fucking time something “slips” about their rank abuse of civil liberties and human rights. And every fucking time they are dead wrong:

  • We know the US tortures its prisoners. What we didn’t know was that the Justice department publicly criticized torture while privately condoning it. How is the approval of White House legal compromising anything?
  • The idea that the public’s knowledge of this administration’s actions is somehow dangerous is itself a direct attack on the American people. We put those fuckers in office, they are there to serve us, and we have the right and responsibility to know what they are doing in our name!
  • It is transparent and convenient every time they pull it. Oh really? The administration did something awful, and revealing it makes us less safe? Imagine that.

And of course Bush justifies this in terms of “protecting” us:

“I have put this program in place for a reason, and that is to better protect the American people,” the president said, without mentioning the C.I.A. by name. “And when we find somebody who may have information regarding a potential attack on America, you bet we’re going to detain them, and you bet we’re going to question them, because the American people expect us to find out information — actionable intelligence so we can help protect them. That’s our job.”

Your job is so much more than providing security. You aren’t the national chief of police. You are the President.

And even if we accepted your patronizing argument, it fails on its own merits. Torturing prisoners makes the world less safe for Americans. Especially if you allow torture of Americans. Suddenly the US is viewed, correctly, as an imperialist nation ruling with fear and steel. We become a nation of thugs, and God help any of our citizens captured by hostile forces.

You are the worst excuse for a President this country has ever suffered through. 2008 can’t come soon enough. And when it does, we’re sending your criminal ass to the slammer for life.

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11 Responses

  1. Yea I want to see the fuckers punished. They’re like kids with guns up there thinking they are above the law. Frankly, torture is ok with me, as long as you don’t make a habit of it and you do it in secret. Save it for the important times like when you have Saddams kids in custody.

  2. Michael D:
    With respect, a flash for you:
    Torture does not result in credible info. What torture does do is 1) Destroy our humanity and 2) Jeopardizes the safety of our servicepersons if they are captured and 3) Makes more people want to kill us.

    Love this post, FFTO, and your passion against the abomination of both torture and this torturing administration.

  3. Michael D,
    I want to see the fuckers punished too (I presume we are talking about the administration). As for torture at all, Mirth has it down to a science.

    It doesn’t help, it only hurts us. Badly.

    Thanks Mirth.

  4. Yes we are talking about the administration, the big bunch of losers. Mirth I agree with you totally. The torture I’m talking about is the kind no one knows about. Now I may sound hypocritical here but I feel there is a place for it. It’s a “slippery slope” so to speak and I don’t believe most people in the position to carry it out can deal with the authority. What I’m saying is for instance, from what is known about Saddam’s son choosing schoolgirls to rape after the attempt on his life and the rumors that it made him dysfunctional erectily, he was out to prove, at the expense of innocent children, that he could have sex. This example makes me want to attach jumper cables to his nuts and show him what’s zappening!!!!

  5. The thing is, Michael D, unless we torture to death then people will eventually learn of it.
    And there’s that humanity thing….

  6. Yea, agreed, humanity gets in the way and I have too much of a conscience to go with it now. Damn you for making me feel human!!!!

  7. What a lovely exchange. I mean that completely.

    It is so understandable to want to do horrible things to horrible people. But we are our actions.

  8. Michael D, how gracious you are!
    And I understand the rage people feel about despicable acts like you mentioned of Saddam’s son and the desire to return it to them tenfold.
    But we cannot become what we abhor. We must rise to our higher selves when we go looking for answers.
    Otherwise, we bring our own doom.

  9. I just feel that if there were real consequences to peoples actions there would be more morality based decisions than self serving ones. It would appear I’m being a little fantastic with my aspirations. Bush’s accountability is non existent at this point and it’s looking as if there will be none for him and his followers. It’s a crying shame. We see it all over the world and it’s a travesty.

  10. Democracy is just an excuse for war. Look back in history, all the lives sacrificed for Democracy and what do we have in America, a facist dictatorship! Now tell me, was it worth it? We are so strung out in the world at war that our borders are wide open for attack. It is almost like they want an attack. The only way war will stop for Democracy is when each individual says, “Hell no, I won’t go”! FUCK DEMOCRACY!

  11. Richard,
    And replace it with what? Our democracy is a word. What we have is a weird variation on a representative system where a few people (elected and unelected) hold most of the power, and control over much of our national discourse. I agree it is terrible, but we need to move closer to individual power and political unity, and therefore “democracy the reality”.

    And I share your worry that our adventures abroad leave us vulnerable to a serious aggressor.

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