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Comment on GodTube: Sex Before Marriage by Lindsey

Lindsey — Sun, 05 Oct 2008 01:13:56 +0000

*sigh* sometimes other Christians just embarrass me! I read the comments, and all of the “this is so totally true” and “I’m saving myself for the husband God will give me” made me want to hit something. Are we still in victorian times? Is a woman’s value still judged by whether or not her hymen is intact?

Not to mention the affect that the “spoiled goods” logic can have on girls who are sexually abused.

The people that made that video really ought to be ashamed of themselves.

(Oh, and God ordered Hosea to marry a whore! Not sure if that’s really applicable to the discussion at hand, but, hey…)

Comment on GodTube: Sex Before Marriage by ralfast

ralfast — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 20:54:17 +0000

Specially if your boinking the bride!

Comment on GodTube: Sex Before Marriage by RickB

RickB — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 20:18:15 +0000

Actually sex before marriage can be risky as it can make you late for the ceremony…. I’ll be here all week etc.

Comment on Obama and the Anti-Choice Whisper Campaign by Abortion: Aggressive New Language | Revolutionary Act

Abortion: Aggressive New Language | Revolutionary Act — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 12:36:26 +0000

[...] they can to paint Obama as a baby killer. This line of attack relies on a single bill, the purposely misnamed Born Alive Infant Protection Act: Back to the bill, it was a crafty attempt by the anti-choice [...]

Comment on Of Christians, Matyrs, and Proof by Dan (Fitness)

Dan (Fitness) — Tue, 30 Sep 2008 20:50:25 +0000

jaz,
Matt, sorry for the long time in replying.

Examples from history of people dying for a lie:
Do you believe suicide bombers are rewarded in heaven with virgins?

Ah. That is a very good point. I think I have to agree with you there. People don’t generally die for a lie they themselves do not believe in. (although one could use a a clever example of someone dying to protect a lie they believe to be necessary as a counterexample, I think for the purposes of our discussion your point stands firmly).

I don’t buy the “virtually all serious scholars and historians” bit. For one, how many is “virtually all”? What constitutes “serious”? How many have a vested personal interest in proving Christianity?

There are references to *many* Jews killed by the Romans, but no indication any of them performed miracles, rose from the dead, etc.

I don’t think the deaths of the apostles works as proof of the veracity of Christianity’s claims. Why would it?

Excellent discussion Matt, thanks!

jaz,
I think focusing purely on the point of “what about right now” is a useful thought exercise. I think the original argument being put forth was that “people died for Jesus, they must have been on to something”, and we’ve been going back and forth about the credibility of such an argument.

With regards to miracles, yeah, not so common. With regards to living loving and inspired lives, I do see that, a lot. I think the idea of “show your faith by your works” refers more towards being a good person, and for all the people out there giving Christianity a bad rap by example, there are a ton doing good works and being just exactly the kind of people their religion invites them to be.

Comment on Palin is McCain’s Weakpoint by Thomas

Thomas — Tue, 30 Sep 2008 20:49:30 +0000

“McCain threw a wild punch and now he’s wide open. Democrats need to close in for the knock-out.”

The people demand more boxing metaphors!

Comment on Of Christians, Matyrs, and Proof by jaz

jaz — Tue, 30 Sep 2008 04:02:34 +0000

I have read more comments and again, it doesn’t matter what happened 2000 years ago. What I want to know is why aren’t we seeing the mircales done by the Jesus followers of today? Why don’t we see Christians who lives are so different and so on fire that non believers know instantly as they did 2000 years ago that that person is a believer in Christ. The proof of Jesus and His ressurection and everything that goes with it should be shinning out in the lives of the believers today. I myself do not see Christ in His so called followers of today. I definitely don’t see His followers doing the mircales He did and making a difference in the world. There is a few television preachers who supposedly are healing the sick, but that should be a common thing seen being done by the average Christian plus seeing a dramatic difference in the lives of the Christians from the rest of the world. As far as I see, Christians really aren’t any different that non believers. They just say they are saved. The Bible says to show your faith by your works, I don’t see Christians doing that.

Comment on Of Christians, Matyrs, and Proof by jaz

jaz — Tue, 30 Sep 2008 03:46:27 +0000

The problem with christianity is that Christians use the NT scriptures for proof for everything they say and claim to be true. But the problem with that is that over the last couple decaded too much of the NT scripture has proven to be false. Plus if the things in the NT are true than Historians would mention it, which they don’t. the few things Christian use to try to claim are proof have been proven those few statements were tampered with and added and were not written by the orginal historian. Besides if all the stuff is so true in Christianity why aren’t we seeing all the mircales today that supposedly Jesus and the 12 deciples did. Jesus said He ascended into Heaven that that His followers would do the same mircales He did and even greater ones. I havent seen anyone raised from the dead or any mircalous healings in any local churches. The proof that Jesus is real should be showing in the lives of the Christian followers of today not 2000 years ago.

Comment on Obama: The White Supremacist Backlash by ralfast

ralfast — Tue, 30 Sep 2008 01:08:41 +0000

Not by you. I mean they do it all by themselves.

Comment on Obama: The White Supremacist Backlash by Dan (Fitness)

Dan (Fitness) — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:27:32 +0000

I’m beginning to think I ought to just start censoring comments. I think people get the point that right wing racists are unintelligent inarticulate wastes of space. Does that need to be reinforced?

Comment on Obama: The White Supremacist Backlash by ralfast

ralfast — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:44:52 +0000

What a fresh piece of….inanity….

Comment on Obama: The White Supremacist Backlash by Koon Killer

Koon Killer — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 02:48:05 +0000

Dan’s a liberal fag!

Comment on 700 Billion Gone by Dan (Fitness)

Dan (Fitness) — Sat, 27 Sep 2008 17:54:51 +0000

I think its fine for governments to regulate corporations in order to protect consumers. But to bail out institutions that fail because of massive doses of greed, hubris and stupidity is shameful.

And I agree, we don’t hear a lot of discussion about the long term impact.

Comment on Obama: The White Supremacist Backlash by Dan (Fitness)

Dan (Fitness) — Sat, 27 Sep 2008 17:52:35 +0000

FYN,
Does it hurt to look in the mirror and see only fear and weakness?

Comment on Obama: The White Supremacist Backlash by FUCKYOUNIGGER

FUCKYOUNIGGER — Sat, 27 Sep 2008 04:15:09 +0000

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2) GOT A LEAK CALL A PLUMBER

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